CEO OF MUSIC DEALERS.. “YOU HAVE TO INTERACTIVE WITH THEM TO GET MORE PLACMENTS, OTHERWISE IT’S THERE UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS” – Eric Sheinkop, CEO and Co-Founder, Music Dealers, LLC. (USA)
MIDEM 2012 INTERVIEW –
Music & Brands Partnerships: Coca-Cola & Music Dealers – midem 2012
Those that have their own publishing set up with the PRO, what is a typical procedure after registering a title. If a track gets licensed and music library has their own publishing, do you just remove your own publishing from PRO? Also in your experience, is it worth having your own publishing besides being able to collect 50% after all the admin work?
If a track that you’ve registered gets licensed by a music library that takes the publishing it is most likely a non-exclusive re-title deal and you don’t have to do anything. You probably wouldn’t want to register any cue you will be shopping exclusively.
Couldn’t find a thread on FMN (Film Music Network). So I’ll ask here…
I’ve been submitting to FMN’s listing for the last several months without one listen by the client. I’m starting to wonder if these are done deals that they’ve been posting the last year.
You would think out of all my submissions in the last year at least one of them would have been listened to. Anyone else noticing this?
I submitted to five FMN music calls since September 2011. My most recent, job #5288 was listened to within 3 days of my submission. Nothing else though.
Thanks for your reply Alan. I’m about ready to drop them. It seems rather silly paying money to listings that never get listened to by the client. Actually those clients are rather inconsiderate as well.
I have actually mentioned them a number of times here. I made a number of deals using FMN though only one has panned out. BUT, that one deal has netted me tens of thousands of dollars over the years and continues to do so to this day.
I recently completed my first full length soundscape/new age/ambient/yoga cue (ha). I put cymbal mallet rolls and wind chimes at the end of most phrases.
My question, is it a bad idea putting these across phrase lines? IMHO, it works musically and is important to the song. From an editors standpoint, it makes it about impossible to edit or loop the songs because there is a cymbal tail hanging over.
When I make a :60, :30 etc, I need to go back to the original and move all those shimmery tinkly things for each edit.
Any of you have a standard way to treat this?
Part 2, I hear a lot of cymbal mallet rolls at transitions in BG TV cues. Can I ASS-U-ME that the show audio editor is adding those to hide the cross fade between 2 cues? Should I avoid putting them in my stuff?
I use cymbal rolls in a lot of my tracks to transition between phrases/sections. In the loops/edits I create from that track though, I remove all of these cymbal rolls.
I think the ones you are talking about are all added by music supervisors to make all the music they use stick together
So Jingle Punks is providing gratis (free) blanket deals for networks? I thought that at least Jingle Punks got paid a flat fee from the networks. But then again, I heard MTV does not pay upfront fees for music unless it is from an artist signed to a major record company. Wow!
CEO OF MUSIC DEALERS.. “YOU HAVE TO INTERACTIVE WITH THEM TO GET MORE PLACMENTS, OTHERWISE IT’S THERE UNTIL SOMETHING HAPPENS” – Eric Sheinkop, CEO and Co-Founder, Music Dealers, LLC. (USA)
MIDEM 2012 INTERVIEW –
Music & Brands Partnerships: Coca-Cola & Music Dealers – midem 2012
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXNo3qW6g4c
He mentioned there main focus is on upcoming indie bands.
Bands they feel are the “Next Big Thing”.
This would explain where the direction for them and why it some may not being getting placements with them
Hi everyone.
Those that have their own publishing set up with the PRO, what is a typical procedure after registering a title. If a track gets licensed and music library has their own publishing, do you just remove your own publishing from PRO? Also in your experience, is it worth having your own publishing besides being able to collect 50% after all the admin work?
Just saw that there was newbie section. Perhaps this can be moved if possible? Thanks.
If a track that you’ve registered gets licensed by a music library that takes the publishing it is most likely a non-exclusive re-title deal and you don’t have to do anything. You probably wouldn’t want to register any cue you will be shopping exclusively.
>it worth having your own publishing<
Sure, at least it doesn't hurt anything.
Michael
http://www.guidetopricingmusic.com
Thanks Michael. Already have publishing setup. Will keep your book in mind as well.
Couldn’t find a thread on FMN (Film Music Network). So I’ll ask here…
I’ve been submitting to FMN’s listing for the last several months without one listen by the client. I’m starting to wonder if these are done deals that they’ve been posting the last year.
You would think out of all my submissions in the last year at least one of them would have been listened to. Anyone else noticing this?
I submitted to five FMN music calls since September 2011. My most recent, job #5288 was listened to within 3 days of my submission. Nothing else though.
Thanks for your reply Alan. I’m about ready to drop them. It seems rather silly paying money to listings that never get listened to by the client. Actually those clients are rather inconsiderate as well.
I have actually mentioned them a number of times here. I made a number of deals using FMN though only one has panned out. BUT, that one deal has netted me tens of thousands of dollars over the years and continues to do so to this day.
I reckon it’s worth it then Art. BTW, congratulation on the good placement.
Thanks. It’s a long process to find what works and what doesn’t. Patience and persistence!
I don’t know about you Art, but the older I get the less patience I have.
Questions regarding cymbal rolls:
Hey guys,
I recently completed my first full length soundscape/new age/ambient/yoga cue (ha). I put cymbal mallet rolls and wind chimes at the end of most phrases.
My question, is it a bad idea putting these across phrase lines? IMHO, it works musically and is important to the song. From an editors standpoint, it makes it about impossible to edit or loop the songs because there is a cymbal tail hanging over.
When I make a :60, :30 etc, I need to go back to the original and move all those shimmery tinkly things for each edit.
Any of you have a standard way to treat this?
Part 2, I hear a lot of cymbal mallet rolls at transitions in BG TV cues. Can I ASS-U-ME that the show audio editor is adding those to hide the cross fade between 2 cues? Should I avoid putting them in my stuff?
I use cymbal rolls in a lot of my tracks to transition between phrases/sections. In the loops/edits I create from that track though, I remove all of these cymbal rolls.
I think the ones you are talking about are all added by music supervisors to make all the music they use stick together
The FAQ does say “for a licence fee”, not for free…
JP answering questions about gratis deals..Interesting convo!
http://support.jinglepunks.com/jinglepunks/topics/the_faq_does_say_for_a_licence_fee_not_for_free
So Jingle Punks is providing gratis (free) blanket deals for networks? I thought that at least Jingle Punks got paid a flat fee from the networks. But then again, I heard MTV does not pay upfront fees for music unless it is from an artist signed to a major record company. Wow!
Great info!